THE OTHER ROOM
Experimental poetry in ManchesterArchive for November, 2009
Geof Huth previews f[lintst)eel
Geof Huth writes about the progress of his up and coming if p then q collection on his blog:
I have spent the night trying to organize my collected pwoermds in some logical and reasonably consistent manner. Now, at the end of the night, I’ve got them in reasonable order and am looking at 100 pages of pwoermds, and about 669 pwoermds total. (Counting them all is made difficult by the fact that I’ve intentionally left in duplicates of some pwoermds, for esthetic reasons.
The Other Room interviews Ron Padgett
The Other Room Interview Series kicks off with a conversation with Ron Padgett. All interviews will be available in a free PDF. Click here to download the Ron Padgett interview.
Sunfish
Sunfish is a new quarterly poetry magazine edited by Nigel Wood and published in Manchester. Issue 1 contains work by Scott Thurston (UK), Jed Rasula (USA), John Seed (UK), Kristy Odelius (USA), Jonathan Greene (USA), rob mclennan (Canada), Geof Huth (USA), Paul A. Green (UK), Meredith Quartermain (Canada), Amy King (USA), Gil McElroy (Canada) and Alec Finlay (UK). It’s just in from the printer and costs £3 (+50p postage). A Sunfish website is in the pipeline; in the meantime, you can get hold of a copy by sending a cheque for £3.50 (made out to Nigel Wood) to: Flat 405, 41 Old Birley Street, Hulme, Manchester M15 5RE. If you’re in Manchester you can save yourself the postage by picking up a copy at the next Other Room reading on December 2nd. For more information, email sunfishmag@googlemail.com.
Give thanks to BlazeVox
Thanksgiving 2009. Thanksgiving Menu Poem : guest of honor C. D. Wright.
The ninth installment of Geoffrey Gatza’s Thanksgiving Menu Poem is now online at BlazeVox.
“This is a concept poem structured around the thanksgiving meal I would cook for everyone I could invite to honor a great poet. This year, the guest of honor is C. D. Wright.”
More here.
Giles Goodland reads at The Chapman Gallery, Salford
Giles Goodland will be reading for Vital Signs at the Chapman Gallery, Salford University, at 1pm on Monday 30th November. Admission is free.
Giles is the author of, among other books, the excellent Capital – LINK
Beyond the Book
This is a course i’m teaching in Manchester. It’s good to see the Poetry School venture into such things. Please pass on if you know anybody who’d be interested. The details and blurb are below as well as a rough weekly schedule. There will also be a class website.
Beyond the Book: alternative approaches to writing
Tutor: James Davies
Venue: The Tai Chi Village Hall, Manchester
Duration: 10 weekly sessions
Day & Time Tuesday’s, 7.30-9.30pm
Start Date 12th Jan 2010
Cost £99.00 (£76.00 concs)
http://www.poetryschool.com
The blurb reads:
These days, there are endless exciting opportunities for writers in the way that they write; and how they publish, experience and share their work. On this course you’ll do a number of exercises exploring alternative writing styles (including those spawned by the internet), consider the myriad of possibilities of collaboration (both with real and virtual bodies), and think about blogging, social networking and alternative methods of publishing work other than the traditional book.
Weekly schedule:
1. Internet as playground
2. Internet as resource
3. Internet as resource pt 2
4. Systems
5. Translation
6. Tanslation pt 2
7. Collaboration
8. Interventions
9. Class filming, audio and archiving
10. Class production and distribution
Lucy Harvest Clarke’s Silveronda now available
The third if p then q classics collection is Lucy Harvest Clarke’s Silveronda and is available for purchase:
LINK to buy
LINK to text samples
LINK to reading at Openned
New Joy As Tiresome Vandalism
More from Simon Taylor and The Other Room’s James Davies year long collaborative text and image project, this month’s instalment being a poem from James. View the whole project so far here.
What’s on this week
Events this week from The Other Room calendar. The calendar is open access. If you have an experimental poetry, art or music event you want to publicise, feel free to post. If you would prefer us to post for you, email us at otherroomeditors@gmail.com
Wednesday 25th November
Openned – the final reading: Andrea Brady; Ian Heames; Antony John; Geraldine Monk; Linus Slug; Timothy Thornton. The Foundry, London. 7.30 PM start. Free. More here.
Thursday 26th November
Alec Newman at Manchester Central Library: Reading from Alec Newman, poet and editor of Knives, Forks and Spoons press, with John G. Hall and Simon Rennie. 6 PM start.
Lemke/Gwilliam CD launch: Castlefield Art Gallery, Manchester 6-8pm. fourmill plus quarterinch is the duo of sound artists and improvising musicians Helmut Lemke and Ben Gwilliam. In this collaboration the two artists use different formats of audiotape; pre-recorded, prepared and unprepared. From individual banks of sound recordings on tape comes a subtle and often dense music that is both composed and improvised in concrete time.More here.
Streetcake issue 8 now online
The latest issue of Stretcake magazine is now online here, featuring:
- Edna Romero
- Sean Burn
- Steph Codsi
- John George‐Nicholson,
- Simone Gilson – dynamic cassette
- Ianna Hawkins Owen
- Katarina Johansson
- Kevin Meehan
Herman van Rompuy vs. Basho
The new President of the European Union is not only a consumate political operator, but also a haiku master. For instance:
Hair blows in the wind
After years there is still wind
Sadly no more hair
and
Puddles wait
for warmth to evaporate.
Water becomes a cloud
We’d have him at The Other Room, but we couldn’t afford his expenses. Anyway, he might decide to turn it in after his work was described as having “an awful conservative, picturesque prettiness” by Andrew Motion here. That’s got to hurt.
Lemke/Gwilliam’s fourmill plus quarterinchback
Do not miss this -
Lemke/Gwilliam’s fourmill plus quarterinchback
Category: Launch
Profile: Castlefield Gallery
Opening hours: (For Castlefield Gallery) Wednesday – Sunday. 1 – 6 pm
Event Date: 18:00 – 20:00 Thursday, 26th Nov 2009
Organisation: Castlefield Gallery
Venue: Castlefield Gallery, 2 Hewitt Street, Manchester, M15 4GB.
Contact: Castlefield Gallery
Email: info@castlefieldgallery.co.uk
Website: http://www.castlefieldgallery.co.uk
Description: Performance and CD Launch of Lemke/Gwilliam’s fourmill plus quarterinch
fourmill plus quarterinch is the duo of sound artists and improvising musicians Helmut Lemke and Ben Gwilliam. In this collaboration the two artists use different formats of audiotape; pre-recorded, prepared and unprepared. From individual banks of sound recordings on tape comes a subtle and often dense music that is both composed and improvised in concrete time.
This CD comes in a 5inch tape reel box, including 5 prints made in conjunction with the recordings. http://www.thosesoundsbetween.co.uk
FREE EVENT, BOOKING REQUIRED To book please call the gallery on 0161 832 8034 or email events@castlefieldgallery.co.uk with your contact details and number of places.
Reading the Removal of Literature
Alan Halsey’s review of December Other Room reader Nick Thurston’s Reading the Removal of Literature can be read at Stride magazine. Here’s the start:
Reading the Remove of Literature is unlike any book I’ve looked at. I’ve read it too but the looking at it is the first essential. With all but a few books one reads without consciousness of seeing. Nick Thurston’s book demands that one look at it constantly and never detach the seeing from the reading – and yet it is only marginally what we generally describe as a ‘visual text’.
The first words of Craig Dworkin’s introduction set the scene: ‘The book you are holding is an edition of Maurice Blanchot’s L’Espace littéraire, although not a word of Blanchot’s text remains. Every page of this book has been assiduously erased by Nick Thurston.
click the LINK for more
Diverse Deeds
Diverse Deeds: Tuesday, December 1: Caroline Bergvall + Erín Moure + Roshi
Café Oto, 18-22 Ashwin Street, Dalston, London E8 3DL.
doors open at 7.30; start at 8.00; end by 10.00; entry £6 (£4 concessions).
This new series of poetry and music performance events continues with three fascinating and innovative artists, who each blend distinctive international elements into new and exciting forms.
Caroline Bergvall is one of Britain’s leading experimental poets, with a large international reputation. Her work blends written, spoken and graphic language and different languages – blends performance, art installation, electronic media and written text – blends challenge, information and pleasure. This is poetry really at the point where it mutates into the defining art form for the electronic information age – exciting, stimulating and astonishing. “One of the most influential experimental spoken-word artists internationally” (US Publishers Weekly).
Caroline Bergvall describes herself as “Writer & artist. French Norwegian, based in London”. Her most recent performance in London was as part of the Serpentine Gallery Poetry Marathon in October, and she has performed or taken parts in events this year in Los Angeles, New York, Providence Rhode Island, Vienna and Ely. She is at present one of the UK’s AHRC Fellows in the Creative and Performing Arts.
Erín Moure is a Canadian poet visiting Britain this autumn on a programme introducing two new books, Expeditions of a Chimaera (with Oana Avasilichioaei) and My Beloved Wager (essays from a writing practice). As a professional translator, her poetry is often a language
Erín Moure was recently described as one of the 10 best English-language poets in Canada by the CBC’s Barbara Carey, who also refers to her as “one of our best – and most audacious – at expanding the possibilities of language.” She is a powerful and clear performer of her work, and Diverse Deeds is privileged to host one of her few readings on this visit.
Roshi is an exponent of “stunningly beautiful Welsh-Iranian torch song electronica“ says Mixmag. Born in Wales to Iranian parents, Roshi Nasehi is a singer-writer who presents her own evocative songs alongside sometimes quite radical interpretations of the Iranian songs she was brought up listening to. Her songs reflect her origins, influences and experiences in a personal and unique way accompanied by unusual piano or keyboard arrangements – they are reflective, melodic and quirky – her voice airy and tender but possessed of an inner power. When she interprets Iranian song it is in a personal style bringing a contemporary twist combined with an authentic understanding of context and language.
Roshi, with her band, or alone at the keyboard is a regular and welcome live performer especially in London, developing a loyal following. She has had a new CD out in October, The Sky and The Caspian Sea (with Pars Radio, her band), of both original and traditional Iranian songs. She has performed on Radio 3’s The Verb poetry show, and at Diverse Deeds’ predecessor, Sundays at the Oto.
Wednesday, December 16: Angela Gardner + the voice of Harry Godwin + Mendoza + Nat Raha + Rebecca Rosier
This event links the visiting Australian poet and artist Angela Gardner with readings and performances from a group of young and innovative London poets. More information will follow nearer the date.
Angela Gardner is an Australian poet with a prize-winning reputation in her own country (2006 Arts Queensland Thomas Shapcott Poetry Prize and 2004 Bauhinia/Idiom 23 Prize). Harry Godwin, Mendoza, Nat Raha and Rebecca Rosier are all poets in their early 20s now (or until recently) based in London and are part of the exciting innovative poetry scene based around small-scale and internet publishing, with strong elements of performance in how they present their poetry.
Diverse Deeds is a series of poetry and music events, each featuring two or three poets and a musician or two. The emphasis is on contemporary innovative poetry, and music at least inflected by improvisation. Diverse Deeds succeeds last year’s successful afternoon Sundays at the Oto events, but now with an evening scheduling. There will be information available on the night (and beforehand online) on all the performers.
For further information:
Maggie O’Sullivan – visual archive
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Maggie O’Sullivan’s website now features a selection of her visual work and the work of Antony Cook. More here.
Missing: 6 years of Poetry Review – reward for finder
A counterblast to Blake Morrison from Matt Dalby:
“Not only are we not really here, it seems we were never here. I would have posted this sooner if I’d got round to reading the weekend Guardian before now. In a review on Saturday Blake Morrison reviewed Fiona Sampson’s A Century of Poetry Review.
Now given that things were fairly eventful round there in the 70’s you’d think there might be plenty of opportunity to mention the British Poetry Revival, Bob Cobbing and so on. Apparently not. The closest he comes are the following:
Controversy also surrounded Eric Mottram in the 1970s, with his radical Anglo-American poetics. Which comes as an aside in a discussion of Muriel Spark’s editorship, and
Several editors of the Poetry Review, including Mottram and later Peter Forbes, strenuously avoided little-Englandism, and there’s a reasonable showing of Americans and Europeans here, including Brodsky, Ginsberg, Ashbery and Primo Levi.
And that’s your lot. Maybe this is reflective of the contents of the book, I can’t find a list of contents and don’t propose buying a copy to find out.”
More Matt Dalby here.
Working methods – speed vs. slowness
“I have always known that I work quickly. My work whether text, visual or sound poems, essays, or whatever else emerges in brief intense bursts. I simply assumed that this was a flaw, that high quality work could only be reached through laborious and extended processes. Education and other aspects of the culture tended to support this belief…But it’s only in the last week that I’ve begun to think that this might not be a fault, it might just be the condition of my mind, the way that I work best. I think part of the reason is there’s a kind of moral supposition that the more carefully thought-out something is the better it is. We distrust pleasure, are suspicious of fun and things that seem effortless.”
Matt Dalby, here.
“Recollection in tranquillity, not derangement of the senses, is the sine qua non of good writing…the digital age has simply compounded a problem caused by the increasing hegemony of one school of writing (the Ionic) over another (the Platonic).”
Andrew Gallix, here.
We’re still not really here
So it turns out that not only is all innovative poetic activity in Manchester confined to the universities (see here), but those universities aren’t even in Manchester (see here). And it also turns out that we should be giving poetry back to the people. In time for Christmas, perhaps.
Andrew Motion channels Kenneth Goldsmith
Interesting points on the nature of ownership here, from an area of writing where we might not expect to find them. Interesting too to picture the former Poet Laureate as a “shameless burglar”, although whenever I’ve seen him he looks a bit embarrassed. Read the article in full here. If you want to read a true master of uncreative writing, check out the Kenneth Goldsmith archive at Eclipse.
So what if I copied work says Sir Andrew Motion, Shakespeare did all the time
Sir Andrew Motion has been accused of “shameless burglary” by a military historian whose research he lifted and put into a poem about shell-shock for Remembrance Sunday.
The former Poet Laureate yesterday insisted that his use of quotations that he discovered in a history book belonged to a noble tradition of “found poetry” dating back to Shakespeare.
But Ben Shephard, an expert who produced The World at War for television, complained that the poet had been “extracting sexy soundbites” from his painstaking work on military psychiatry.
Motion’s poem, published as a tribute to war veterans in The Guardian on Saturday, uses quotations from soldiers and psychiatrists whose accounts Shephard spent ten years compiling. “He has no right to claim any sort of legal or moral ownership of the material,” Shephard said. “There is nothing original in this at all.”
BlazeVOX2k9 Fall now online

Work from:
- Adam Katz and Jackie Stluka
- Alan Botsford Saitoh
- Alan Britt
- April A.
- Aryan Kaganof
- Austin Givens
- Avel Berumen
- bani haykal
- Barrie Mac Clellan
- Bethany Price
- Breonna Krafft
- Brian Anthony Hardie
- C.N. Bean
- Christina Manweller
- Clay Carpenter
- Dan Brady
- David M. Morini
- Dayne Duranti
- Duane Locke
- Ed Makowski
- Emily Brown
- Elizabeth Zuba
- Elaine Kahn
- Even
- Heather Fowler
- Hugh Behm-Steinberg
- Iain Britton
- Ivan Jenson
- James Mc laughlin
- James Cook
More here.




